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![]() Definitely with the NL versus NLX I.e. But I'm not seeing the "Heritage" there. That would be wonderful or a really nice idea wouldn't it?. For programming mac pro or windowsAnd I told him we weren't too impressed with the 1035 we currently own.And we don't make anything complicated, usually in aluminum, and no production. So that's the only one I got him to quote. NLX for lathes.Are you going for a 600V specifically?Actually the 600V would be the only one that would fit through our door width. Busy right now but interested to have a look/ compare.Actually now having a look I don't. I can probably dig something up. Any literature online never mentions ballscrew specs, rail sizes, distance between rails, etc.I have detailed specs on the Dura Verticals. That I have no idea about. Even looking back at DuraVertical specs you can find on the net they weren't option heavy.As for how the machines are built comparatively. But if I was a company I wouldn't be offering the amount of spindles options, horsepower options, or even toolchanger capacity options that exist on the NV and NVX machines on an basic model machine like the ecoMill or DuraVertical. Or how rigid is the head to the rest of the machine, can it take it beating or mild "crashes" or is the head "Fragile" and future re-alignment really difficult? So I'm wondering whether its more important perhaps to find out what the V600 IS. Maybe more about construction like hand scraped contacting surfaces vs. The equivalent ecomill V (1100V) weighs 12,897 lbs.Given that your V600 table surface is 35" x 22" and the machine weighs 10,800 lbs "Weight" as such is not such a major issue perhaps. If you really want to compare the DV 5060 then your sales guy should have a detailed old brochure / pdf for that?So a Dura Vertical 5100 weighs 14,100 lbs - ish. If you go to All downloads and PDF documents from DMG MORIAll of the older machine pdf and brochures are there except the Dura Verticals. I think the basic problem with the older eco mills is that they were not very robust and parts failed a lot. Has not been out there for long enough to be bought by many to be really field tested and had the snot smacked out of it. The V600 is not known to be "good" as it is new. Dmg Mori Eco1100 Series Does NOTSo it's a bit of misleading/manipulative sales pitch to say that an Ecomill 1100V is the replacement of a DV 5100? It comes across as trying to make the buyer "Believe" by association that that is true. The Eco mill V series does NOT appear to be directly descended from the Dura Vertical. Then to say the Ecomill V series is the replacement of the Dura Vertical is kinda stretching things a bit far?I think all you can say is that the Dura Vertical got phased out and maybe in the constellation of the Eco-Machines that DMG mori may have made a slightly better "Eco Mill" than in previous years. Who is saying that though? :-) You know what I mean.? If they are different machines in completely different lines from completely different times and different countries. It's simply the "replacement".Ok. On paper a lot of things look good :-)It's not similar at all. I know things in the past have been rather sketchy (to say the least) but I'm not seeing any pitches that say this is going to be a blank slate and a completely new experience? Other than the words "New" and "Davis". My local DMG Mori sales guy/people would almost rather die than sell me an eco-anything. So you actually got to see ecoline V series mills being built? Did they look good/sound? The engineering manager for the ecoline V mills was giving a tour of "His" or "Her" mills?That's interesting. 15 years ago Mazak's VCN-510 was a replacement for the small funky VTC models, and it was better in every way despite being cheaper and a 100% completely different machine structure/layout.Now, whether or not the new eco1100 is better or worse than the Dura, would have to be figured out by somebody who's actually interested in buying one - which ain't me. Hence OP's original question.Last edited by cameraman 04-07-2016 at 09:29 PM.The engineering manager for that product was giving the tour of the factory.Meh. (this time) ?A trip to Davis where it is being built (and previously Dura was built) will answer all questions posed here.Something to be aware of, the lead design for this machine just happens to be the engineer who designed the DuraVertical.Looking for an excuse to go to Davis (in general).What you say is a bit more meaningful than supposition and or conjecture. So is "Revolutionary" industry/sales speak for "Not completely rubbish". That's not a "revelation", but will be interesting to see how reliable and robust the Ecoline V series mills will turn out to be?The NEW revolutionary vertical milling technology - ecoMill V by DMG MORI - YouTubeIt does use the term "Revolutionary" and "New" a lot. ![]()
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